Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Rotation Advertisements



We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum.


If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away.


Click here to Register!

If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk


If you're already a member please log in to your account:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1
My theory on Goku's heat resistance.
Topic Started: Jun 3 2014, 08:02 PM (2,057 Views)
+ Solid Snake
Member Avatar
滅Are you frightened?

Goku was able to withstand around 6,300 degrees fahrenheit as a kid from rocket fuel ignition.

Kid Goku = 6,300 degrees fahrenheit = 3,482.222 degrees celsius

During the Frieza battle, Frieza notes (towards a Super Saiyan Goku) that Saiyans can't survive in space. This implies that once he's destroyed Namek, Goku will likely survive; injured to a degree, but would die in the vacuum of space.

So a planet's destruction, involving heat, and the explosion, would do no harm to Goku but the emptiness of space would.

A planet explosion reaches heat over 27,000,000 degrees fahrenheit = 15,000,000 degrees celsius, which is the heat of the core of our sun.

Now I'm going to admit that Saiyan are referred to as humans throughout DB, but their alien heritage; their Super Saiyan ability, is different. As a Super Saiyan, Goku and the others have access to strong hidden reserves of ki that allow their bodies to become "Super" compared to their normal states which has a set limit their bodies can handle. As the ideal of ki works, the more you have, the better you're are. Without the transformation, Goku couldn't stand up to Frieza's might but once he transformed, he was easily all around better due to his high ki reserves. His body was changed with the transformation.

Taking that into account, and this statement from both Frieza and Northern Kaio:

Frieza's - Chapter: 319 (DBZ 125), P14.4
Freeza: “I can survive in outer space. But how about you Saiyans!?”

Northern Kaio's - Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P5.2
Kaio: “Nobody can survive where there’s no planet…Except for Freeza…”

At these points, the planet's destruction was all taken in consideration. And if Kid Goku's who's natural resistance plus his ki amount at that time was able reach 6,300 degrees. Then as with a different, stronger, and better body, as well as higher amounts of ki, can contribute to Goku being able to withstand around 18,900,000,000 degrees fahrenheit = 10,499,999,982.222 degrees celsius in his Super Saiyan state at a minimum.
Edited by Solid Snake, Jun 3 2014, 08:14 PM.
Posted Image
Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu


SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig

Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story

Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
King Kakarot
Member Avatar


inb4 someone mentions the Time Chamber and denial because they think the sun is too hot
Edited by King Kakarot, Jun 3 2014, 08:09 PM.
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Solid Snake
Member Avatar
滅Are you frightened?

The ROSAT is not to be taken seriously since Goku, Trunks, and Gohan still acknowledges that the space is different from normal.
Edited by Solid Snake, Jun 3 2014, 08:15 PM.
Posted Image
Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu


SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig

Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story

Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
King Kakarot
Member Avatar


xGOKUdaFALLENx
Jun 3 2014, 08:13 PM
The ROSAT is not to be taken seriously since Goku, Trunks, and Gohan still acknowledges that the space is different from normal.
iirc they said something about the pressure in the HBTC is 1/4 of what it's like on earth but regardless i doubt that would make a huge difference
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Solid Snake
Member Avatar
滅Are you frightened?

King Kakarot
Jun 3 2014, 08:16 PM
xGOKUdaFALLENx
Jun 3 2014, 08:13 PM
The ROSAT is not to be taken seriously since Goku, Trunks, and Gohan still acknowledges that the space is different from normal.
iirc they said something about the pressure in the HBTC is 1/4 of what it's like on earth but regardless i doubt that would make a huge difference
Yeah, it's all has to do Akira wanting to show the difference to the ROSAT and Earth, and who's a better person to explain such things that the main character can? ROSAT isn't the best way to gauge their resistance.
Posted Image
Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu


SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig

Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story

Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Majin Vegeta
Member Avatar
The resident GT fan!

I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
Posted Image

"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!"

Majin Vegeta
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
King Kakarot
Member Avatar


Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 08:21 PM
I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
that's what i was saying he shouldn't even notice the difference
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
lazerbem
Member Avatar


Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 08:21 PM
I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
No, this is actually a fair point. Gravity and strength don't scale. See Trunks struggling in 100x Gravity when he can take down Freeza

Same reason Pocus thought 10x gravity would help him
Posted Image
Crazy cat cults in the woods
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Solid Snake
Member Avatar
滅Are you frightened?

lazerbem
Jun 3 2014, 08:43 PM
Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 08:21 PM
I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
No, this is actually a fair point. Gravity and strength don't scale. See Trunks struggling in 100x Gravity when he can take down Freeza

Same reason Pocus thought 10x gravity would help him
That's obvious, Trunks never really trained in gravity before (as we're shown) and once he went Super Saiyan his strength increased as well.
Posted Image
Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu


SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig

Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story

Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ miguelnuva
Member Avatar


If Goku could survive the planet explosion why was king kai so worried about him being on it when it exploded and why were we shown when Namek was gone Goku was gone.

At could have shown Goku finding a ship in space holding his breath.
Posted Image Posted Image

Gogeta power placement
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
King Kakarot
Member Avatar


miguelnuva
Jun 3 2014, 09:05 PM
If Goku could survive the planet explosion why was king kai so worried about him being on it when it exploded and why were we shown when Namek was gone Goku was gone.

At could have shown Goku finding a ship in space holding his breath.
King kai was worried that he can't breathe in space

What statement was there that oh no Goku will die from the explosion itself?

Heck even freiza said that Saiyans can't breathe in space implying Goku would survive the explosion but die due to lack of air
Edited by King Kakarot, Jun 3 2014, 09:10 PM.
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ miguelnuva
Member Avatar


King Kakarot
Jun 3 2014, 09:10 PM
miguelnuva
Jun 3 2014, 09:05 PM
If Goku could survive the planet explosion why was king kai so worried about him being on it when it exploded and why were we shown when Namek was gone Goku was gone.

At could have shown Goku finding a ship in space holding his breath.
King kai was worried that he can't breathe in space

What statement was there that oh no Goku will die from the explosion itself?

Heck even freiza said that Saiyans can't breathe in space implying Goku would survive the explosion but die due to lack of air
Or their implying Goku possibly could survive it exploding or Goku would die if he tries ti leave tge planet.
Posted Image Posted Image

Gogeta power placement
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
King Kakarot
Member Avatar


miguelnuva
Jun 3 2014, 09:12 PM
King Kakarot
Jun 3 2014, 09:10 PM
miguelnuva
Jun 3 2014, 09:05 PM
If Goku could survive the planet explosion why was king kai so worried about him being on it when it exploded and why were we shown when Namek was gone Goku was gone.

At could have shown Goku finding a ship in space holding his breath.
King kai was worried that he can't breathe in space

What statement was there that oh no Goku will die from the explosion itself?

Heck even freiza said that Saiyans can't breathe in space implying Goku would survive the explosion but die due to lack of air
Or their implying Goku possibly could survive it exploding or Goku would die if he tries ti leave tge planet.
Too bad it's not implied the only concern was the lack of air
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Majin Vegeta
Member Avatar
The resident GT fan!

lazerbem
Jun 3 2014, 08:43 PM
Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 08:21 PM
I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
No, this is actually a fair point. Gravity and strength don't scale. See Trunks struggling in 100x Gravity when he can take down Freeza

Same reason Pocus thought 10x gravity would help him
Exactly, why would ehat scale linearly as well? Was Gohan ever exposed to high temperatures like the Rosat's?
Posted Image

"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!"

Majin Vegeta
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
lazerbem
Member Avatar


Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 09:20 PM
lazerbem
Jun 3 2014, 08:43 PM
Yami Marik
Jun 3 2014, 08:21 PM
I find the temperature thing in the Rosat as not a very strong point of evidence, Gohan thought 10x times gravity was something to be noted as well, that doesn't mean he is at Raditz tier lol.
No, this is actually a fair point. Gravity and strength don't scale. See Trunks struggling in 100x Gravity when he can take down Freeza

Same reason Pocus thought 10x gravity would help him
Exactly, why would ehat scale linearly as well? Was Gohan ever exposed to high temperatures like the Rosat's?
I never claimed it did. I'm just saying that the Saiyans aren't going to take Sun level heat like OP suggests
Posted Image
Crazy cat cults in the woods
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create a free forum in seconds.
Learn More · Register Now
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball/Z Discussion · Next Topic »
Add Reply
  • Pages:
  • 1

Theme Designed by McKee91